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#### nottophammer

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If you want to berate the time table do it here.
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#### Bigbroben

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If you want to berate the time table do it here.

Berate...  wie Beratung?

Notto, average and median are good but are an average only.  The avgs themselves aren,t enough to overcome negative variance that kills profit of many games in just one.

Did you find a way to escape this? Like playing 2+ repeaters also?  Or...?

Good job! Tell me if you need a macro or else with my mistress Excel for you.
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##### Re: Replies to Non-hit time table
berate = attack
Now you know what a Berater shouldn't do

#### nottophammer

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Listen to you Herb
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#### Still

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##### Re: Replies to Non-hit time table
Berate...  wie Beratung?

Notto, average and median are good but are an average only.  The avgs themselves aren,t enough to overcome negative variance that kills profit of many games in just one.

Did you find a way to escape this? Like playing 2+ repeaters also?  Or...?

Good job! Tell me if you need a macro or else with my mistress Excel for you.

I enhanced your Excel sheet and ran tests on KTF and the opposite: repeats.   Ran charts on both same time, short and long run.

First remove the zero so to speak by reducing numbers covered to 36, keeping payout same.  I found a break-even game for both sides, apparently random.

Then make it 37 numbers and it starts to weigh on both sides, eventually sinking both.

Can a take-profit-stop-loss save the game?  Not according to my initial tests.

I also tried a milepost check at 20 spins, to see if it indicated direction to 40 spins.  Nope.

Have not tried return to mean at checkpoints (over/under average).  But am not optimistic as this appears to be an even chance bet.

#### Bigbroben

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##### Re: Replies to Non-hit time table
Right, it reminds me I wanted to share an anti-ktf sheet...

The good thing about this reverse play is that progs tend lower as repeaters kick in.  Found it goes whether real high if the trot is slow (early repeaters) or down if too many unhits in the firts 20 spins or so.

I think I'll try a new version that allows to play regular ktf and add repeaters at some x spins, or after x reps...

First I,ll just share the reverse ktf later tonight.

Stil, to have a break-even game with 36 nrs is already a good start...!
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#### winkel

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##### Re: Replies to Non-hit time table
If you want to berate the time table do it here.

only to look at the averages will mislead you.
Better watch the possible Swing as well:
see attachment
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#### nottophammer

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##### Re: Replies to Non-hit time table
only to look at the averages will mislead you.
I only found, dont matter whether Airball, FOBT's, live spins and random.org that average of 7,5,3 is on all.
Like you said to me in GUT many moons ago becareful, i am, i just watch the so hilarious trot and make decisions for non-hit or repeat.
Today on J.247.com 1st 10 spins end 8/10, next 5 spins are all non-hit, now most games give 7,+2 so 5 have come, so your GUT says could have 2 repeats we have, we've had 5 non-hit in 11-15 so start to bet for repeats, next spin win.Oh yeah curve fitting
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#### nottophammer

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Turner
You did work on 13,31
So Mr J who's a twat, is that better, laughed at this
IF 13 SHOWS DON'T BET FOR 31 BET BLACK, OR 12 DON'T BET FOR 21 BET RED.

On the sheet above you work it out, does it win answer on todays #'s easy just look last 2 spins 23, so bet red, win.

Who says there's always a bet.
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#### nottophammer

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If you know how 36*1,5,25 works, win spin 28; +121

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#### Turner

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Turner
You did work on 13,31
So Mr J who's a twat, is that better, laughed at this
IF 13 SHOWS DON'T BET FOR 31 BET BLACK, OR 12 DON'T BET FOR 21 BET RED.

On the sheet above you work it out, does it win answer on todays #'s easy just look last 2 spins 23, so bet red, win.

Who says there's always a bet.
Well...firstly...me and Ken spoke in detail (and its private) and we get on ok now. I hate being at loggerheads with someone so Im very happy with the situation.

As for 13 31....as predicted...it shows exactly the same as 1 2 or 36 11 or any other pair..
I tested over 100 k I think.
Numerology and telekinesis are bunkum in my view. Just saying....but that shouldnt deter anyone else from believing it.
What do I know?

#### nottophammer

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As for 13 31....as predicted...it shows exactly the same as 1 2 or 36 11 or any other pair.

Yes Turner, the reverse does ask a lot, so as the pair are red 32;12, instead of betting the reverse why not just bet for the colour. Below just from the start of the generals starburst #'s
20
3
2
23
36 w
14
17
32
35 L
9
17
10
33
0
5
29
11
13
11 w
18
35
31
20 w

Just voodoo ??
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#### nottophammer

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Some might ask themselves, how does Notto get this average for spins 11-20, that is 7,+2
So here are 700 sets of 11-20

There's your answer. So the 15 non-hits over 30 spins should be 5,5,5 look how often the 5 happens,
So this is why you can watch how the non-hit are coming using spins of 1/37 So like J247 today, 8;+3 shown in KTF, would that not indicate repeat must be near
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#### nottophammer

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Generals looked and must have passed the reply
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#### nottophammer

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Rob
In the germans; 1st 10 spins, get the opportunity to bet once 71 times from 112 games, +182
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