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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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Winner

Quote from: Sparks on Feb 11, 05:37 PM 2019
No problem Winner, I'll re-do the file with the 0s included tomorrow for you
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Ok thank you

jono1167

Winner, your system relies on packaging the results of two spins into a RUN or CHOP.  Money is then bet on the result.

The system relies on the result of two spins. No money is placed on the first spin. Only the second spin is wagered. Now I’ve noticed, I frequently hit a zero on the first spin. Although the first spin is part of the betting process, I don’t lose any money. It’s a void event. I re-spin and continue.

Therefore we are immune to the effect of a zero hitting half the time. If this is the case, the house edge goes from 2.7 to 1.35. Is this logic correct? (Sorry, I’m am not a maths guy).

Bigbroben

You're also betting half the time so odds of hitting Zero are the same.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Winner

Quote from: jono1167 on Feb 11, 09:26 PM 2019
Winner, your system relies on packaging the results of two spins into a RUN or CHOP.  Money is then bet on the result.

The system relies on the result of two spins. No money is placed on the first spin. Only the second spin is wagered. Now I’ve noticed, I frequently hit a zero on the first spin. Although the first spin is part of the betting process, I don’t lose any money. It’s a void event. I re-spin and continue.

Therefore we are immune to the effect of a zero hitting half the time. If this is the case, the house edge goes from 2.7 to 1.35. Is this logic correct? (Sorry, I’m am not a maths guy).
Regardless if the zero hits on the first spin it’s a wash .

jono1167

Quote from: Bigbroben on Feb 11, 09:39 PM 2019
You're also betting half the time so odds of hitting Zero are the same.

Thanks Ben. I'm definitely not a maths guy....

Have you tried Winners system yet? If so, have you had any luck?

Bigbroben

Not yet.

I've left ECs for a while, not enough Excel challenge, I guess ( what kind of geek have I become?)
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Person S

Winner, could you elaborate a bit on the key when we need to switch?  If this is possible with an example. :question: I think the system with which we can play and be in +, a modified parachute by 16 steps, I still do not understand how to implement it, because mathematics is not my friend) M. b someone can check ....

Sparks

Winner, here's the file with the 0s included

let me know how you get on

jono1167

Winner, I have picked apart your results but I can’t work out your betting strategy. I wish I could, it’s more resilient than mine...

See the results of 7 sessions this evening.

For the 7 sessions there is an overall profit of 14 units. The 14 unit profit came after CHOPS defeated RUNS 67 to 52 (I always bet on RUNS).

Note, I had to activate the stop-loss on the 3rd session and finished with a loss of -24 units. This was after the CHOPS outnumbered the RUNS 7 to 2 for this game.

In the final game I finished with a profit of 2 units, however the betting dipped down to -91 units.  It was another horror run with CHOPS outnumbering RUNS 16 to 9. Although the session recovered, the fact that it dipped down so far is not a good sign.

Full results below....

Results of mini-labouchere betting on Winners system
2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2 (+9)
9 RUNS / 9 CHOPS

2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2 (+13)
10 RUNS / 7 CHOPS

1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1
(-24)
2 RUNS / 7 CHOPS

1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2 (+4)
8 RUNS / 11 CHOPS

1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1
(+8)
8 RUNS / 8 CHOPS

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2
(+2)
6 RUNS / 9 CHOPS

1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2
(+2)
9 RUNS / 16 CHOPS

nottophammer

Winner
is the chop and run sequence correct



how do you use the zero result please.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

2BobBet

@ Notto   As I understand it that number 22 is a chop, you ignore the 0 

I have been playing this and its a very stable bet selection, my money management is the same as winners flat bet up to a 4 unit loss then I carry on if im still on my string of 9 results

I then start my progression on the start of the next string of 9 results

Example

1,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,1
2,1,1,2,1,2,2,2,2  -- Use prog 2,4,6,12 ....  if behind , at the start of this string
1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1
1,2,2
plus 6 units for me on this All Flat Bet  O0

nottophammer

Thanks Bob

Now ignore this if you like. But thanks to Steve for adding the race track on MPR.
Why thanks?
Well if you can use the track option where you play; you could incorporate the zero; by using the Voisins du zero against the orphen's+ the Tier sections.
Okay not a true 50/50; but by having zero, you can say bet the Voisin section to give a run.



Just find your prog: if you want one.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Winner

Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 12, 06:23 AM 2019
Winner
is the chop and run sequence correct



how do you use the zero result please.
The zero is a wash .
If it comes on the second spin you keep betting .
Ex 10,  0 ,35  so here the zero came on the second spin so I would continue until I get the result of a run or a chop.
Hope That helps.

Winner

Quote from: Sparks on Feb 12, 04:40 AM 2019
Winner, here's the file with the 0s included

let me know how you get on
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The systems works great 👍🏼 had good results thanks

2BobBet

Thanks Winner thats how im playing

Thanks for posting this  :thumbsup:, slow money maker as you said but very, very good stable bet selection. Just won another 6 units online! with no panic drawdowns even with a small marty

It reminds me of a system Ego posted, again very stable bet selection playing against the last string of results

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