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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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Mako

Quote from: Winner on Feb 19, 03:31 PM 2019
Ex 122112212122112111= 8 runs of 2$
Now would you switch to to betting 2s?

I will guess yes, because the 2s are -STD at that point?  Or did you abandon STD as an indicator in favor of going with the pre-set sequences as the trigger?

miniroll171

Quote from: Winner on Feb 19, 03:31 PM 2019
Ex 122112212122112111= 8 runs of 2$
Now would you switch to to betting 2s? 9/9 being even

I would say no as in your previous examples you don’t seem to be betting on the number that is lagging behind the 9/9

Or are you asking because the sequence ended with 111 so this is a trigger to bet on 2s?

Winner

What come in more short or long series?

Winner

I’m sure you’ll say short use the results and the end of your play to figure out the switch.
Then play the short series and figure out the switch within the switch.meaning how long will you bet before switching.back to short series .now before you do this you have to figure out the long series how often do they come.1112221111112222122222212222221111.
I think I just gave you the answer

miniroll171

So in the sequence from earlier:
122112212122112111

Short series would be and sigle digit or double digits the same?:
[1] [22] [11] [22] [1] [2] [1] [22] [11] [2] 111

and the long series would be just the 111 at the end?
122112212122112 [111]

Am I on the right track?


atlantis

I experiment and consider last 3 results only and bet dominant side on rolling basis - that way capture streaks and switch when last 3 results say.

              L  L   w  w  w w w  w  w  L  w   L  w  L  L  w   L   w  L  w  L  L  w
2--1--1--2--2--2--2--2--2--2--2--2--1--2--1--1--2--2--2--1--2--1--1--2--2--2 

Use winner's progression or own progression or flatbet?

Possibility to use "3 bet cycles" for betting:

1-1-2
1-2-2
2-2-2
2-2-3
2-3-3...etc

If win stay in the same cycle - unless level or ahead overall in which case reset at first cycle.
If lose all 3 bets in a cycle - go up to next cycle.

Betting cyclically with above results (13 wins)

+0
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+0
+0
+0
+0
+0
+0
==
+6u profit
==

Highest cycle = 1-1-2

Winner's example using dominant of last 3:

              L  L  w   L  L  w  w  w  w  L  L   w w   L   w  w w w w   w  L   w w  w  w  w w    L  L  w w
1--1--1--2--2--2--1--1--1--1--1--1--2--2--2--2--1--2--2--2--2--2--2--1--2--2--2--2--2--2--1--1--1--1

Regards,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

blueman

Beautifully explained atlantis , thanks. Winner.......... winer is a philosopher and fucks everybody here!? :lol:

miniroll171

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 20, 06:58 AM 2019
I experiment and consider last 3 results only and bet dominant side on rolling basis - that way capture streaks and switch when last 3 results say.

              L  L   w  w  w w w  w  w  L  w   L  w  L  L  w   L   w  L  w  L  L  w
2--1--1--2--2--2--2--2--2--2--2--2--1--2--1--1--2--2--2--1--2--1--1--2--2--2 

Use winner's progression or own progression or flatbet?

Possibility to use "3 bet cycles" for betting:

1-1-2
1-2-2
2-2-2
2-2-3
2-3-3...etc

If win stay in the same cycle - unless level or ahead overall in which case reset at first cycle.
If lose all 3 bets in a cycle - go up to next cycle.

Betting cyclically with above results (13 wins)

+0
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+0
+0
+0
+0
+0
+0
==
+6u profit
==

Highest cycle = 1-1-2

Winner's example using dominant of last 3:

              L  L  w   L  L  w  w  w  w  L  L   w w   L   w  w w w w   w  L   w w  w  w  w w    L  L  w w
1--1--1--2--2--2--1--1--1--1--1--1--2--2--2--2--1--2--2--2--2--2--2--1--2--2--2--2--2--2--1--1--1--1

Regards,
A.


Great work Atlantis! This looks a really good system. I will program it into my tester and see if it works over a few hundred games, thanks

Mister Eko

Quote from: miniroll171 on Feb 20, 08:30 AM 2019

Great work Atlantis! This looks a really good system. I will program it into my tester and see if it works over a few hundred games, thanks

Can you post the results please example few hunderds sessions?

Thanks if yes.

miniroll171

Quote from: Mister Eko on Feb 20, 09:20 AM 2019
Can you post the results please example few hunderds sessions?

Thanks if yes.

Yup no problem, unfortunately the results arn't good.

So I ran 1000 games playing for about 36 spins per game, betting as Atlantis described. Using Winners 1 1 1 1 2 4 8 16 32 progression. Resetting the progression back to the start on a Win

First 1000 Games Result
Highest Balance: +65
Lowest Balance: - 534
Finishing Balance: -515

I ran another 1000 games to check but results were pretty simular:

Second batch of 1000 games
Highest Balance +69
Lowest Balance : -571
Finishing Balance : -504

I tried adding in a stop on the game when you got to +3 profit, that game would end and a new one would start. I also tried Atlantis suggestion of the 3 bet cycles, but these just made it worse.

RayManZ

Quote from: miniroll171 on Feb 20, 10:28 AM 2019
Yup no problem, unfortunately the results arn't good.

So I ran 1000 games playing for about 36 spins per game, betting as Atlantis described. Using Winners 1 1 1 1 2 4 8 16 32 progression. Resetting the progression back to the start on a Win

First 1000 Games Result
Highest Balance: +65
Lowest Balance: - 534
Finishing Balance: -515

I ran another 1000 games to check but results were pretty simular:

Second batch of 1000 games
Highest Balance +69
Lowest Balance : -571
Finishing Balance : -504

I tried adding in a stop on the game when you got to +3 profit, that game would end and a new one would start. I also tried Atlantis suggestion of the 3 bet cycles, but these just made it worse.

You got the progression of alantis wrong.

miniroll171

Quote from: RayManZ on Feb 20, 10:42 AM 2019
You got the progression of alantis wrong.

These Results were using Atlantis betting method - Using the last 3 results betting on the dominant one. So if 112 were the last results I would bet the next result was a 1.

The Progression I used was Winners 1 1 1 1 2 4 8 16 32.

I did try Atlantis progression as well in a seperate game but that seemed to perform worse over the 1000 games. I didn't keep the results.  I will see if I can redo it using his progression and post results

miniroll171

Quote from: miniroll171 on Feb 20, 10:57 AM 2019
These Results were using Atlantis betting method - Using the last 3 results betting on the dominant one. So if 112 were the last results I would bet the next result was a 1.

The Progression I used was Winners 1 1 1 1 2 4 8 16 32.

I did try Atlantis progression as well in a seperate game but that seemed to perform worse over the 1000 games. I didn't keep the results.  I will see if I can redo it using his progression and post results

So the Results using the 3 stage progression as Atlantis described were as follows:

First 1000 games finished -413
Second 1000 games finished -693

So I think we still need to crack Winners betting stratagey

atlantis

OK. fair enough - as I said in the post, was only an experiment...
There may be better way utilising virtual betting, 'no bets' or 'stopping points' for example. We just need to figure out a better strategy for betting these 1's and 2's 'pair' results.
Miniroll - I suppose you DID test using last 3 'pair results' and not just last 3 outcomes??
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

IVO

Hi gentlemen,
maybe we have to try to play patterns 111 (trend for 1s) or 222 (trend for 2s)?  :question:

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