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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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Winner

I remember GLC loved the guy he was in my opinion the master of progression
Had all kinds
Bottom line doesn’t matter how you slice it your grinding your self out of a hole.
Fibo
Danbert
Up as you win this is a good one try at get 2 wins in row on a consistent basis.
Parlay
Trio is interesting
But they all fail
Bottom line  .even money you lose the first how do you get your money back
Grinding or Marty  it’s all preference

Firefox

Quote from: Mako on Mar 08, 01:36 PM 2019
I still check this thread daily and do enjoy the riddle because eventually we'll get it. 

Thanks Winner for keeping it going, as the creator of the system I'm sure it seems frustrating that no one has gotten it, but I've had players privately give me their exact bet selection for their particular grail methods they use and it STILL takes extra questions and answers to get it right hahaha  :twisted:

Keep it up... the "answer a question with another question" routine actually made me chuckle reading through the responses today...Sherlock Holmes here is treating us like Watson, and some are bristling at it. 

People not named Winner: Don't get frustrated, treat it as something to ponder as you drink your morning coffee.  :thumbsup:

Mako, he guesses the even chances, and uses a Martingale when he gets it wrong. So basically he's a Marty player.

There's nothing more to know.

I just hope nobody new reading this thinks the Marty is a good idea. Because it isn't. I think we have some responsibility to point that out.

Winner

Quote from: Firefox on Mar 08, 07:24 PM 2019
Mako, he guesses the even chances, and uses a Martingale when he gets it wrong. So basically he's a Marty player.

There's nothing more to know.

I just hope nobody new reading this thinks the Marty is a good idea. Because it isn't. I think we have some responsibility to point that out.
Ya go back to hurting your eyes on visuals
And how would you you bet an even money when you lose genius

Winner

Visual player are funny he say I guess and bet the Marty
Ok Sherlock what do you do when your visualization you guess and when you lose 5 in row you use progression don’t bs

Mister Eko

Quote from: Winner on Mar 08, 07:06 PM 2019
I remember GLC loved the guy he was in my opinion the master of progression
Had all kinds
Bottom line doesn’t matter how you slice it your grinding your self out of a hole.
Fibo
Danbert
Up as you win this is a good one try at get 2 wins in row on a consistent basis.
Parlay
Trio is interesting
But they all fail
Bottom line  .even money you lose the first how do you get your money back
Grinding or Marty  it’s all preference

You dont have to get back your money immediately

Winner

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 08, 07:52 PM 2019
You dont have to get back your money immediately
Mister Eko shed some light on how you would bet on an even money bet
Lwllwlllllllwlllllllllllllwlllww

Firefox

Quote from: Winner on Mar 08, 07:30 PM 2019
And how would you you bet an even money when you lose

I don't play even chances as a rule but I may make the odd min EC bet as cover.

When I lose, I just make another flat min bet sometime later.

On average I win half the bets and therefore I lose very little, only to the house zero edge 1.35% of my total EC action in the long run.

Whereas with a Marty, even if it came off, and I win back my unit, I would be exposing some big bets like 32, 64,128 to the house edge and losing significant amounts to zero because my total action is higher.

That's why it's a poor system.

Good article on the Marty here. You can see mathematicians reckon it's a loser.

link:s://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system)

Winner

Quote from: Firefox on Mar 08, 09:22 PM 2019
I don't play even chances as a rule but I may make the odd min EC bet as cover.

When I lose, I just make another flat min bet sometime later.

On average I win half the bets and therefore I lose very little, only to the house zero edge 1.35% of my total EC action in the long run.

Whereas with a Marty, even if it came off, and I win back my unit, I would be exposing some big bets like 32, 64,128 to the house edge and losing significant amounts to zero because my total action is higher.

That's why it's a poor system.

Good article on the Marty here. You can see mathematicians reckon it's a loser.

link:s://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system)
No need to post articles on maths I’m aware on how it works .
It’s only poor if you don’t no what your doing .i don’t lose a little I only win  milking the cow

Mister Eko

Quote from: Winner on Mar 08, 08:34 PM 2019
Mister Eko shed some light on how you would bet on an even money bet
Lwllwlllllllwlllllllllllllwlllww

After 7 loss, 1 win, and 14 loss immadiately. Dont say, that marty, or any of your prgoression can keep it to positive mate. I have in my pocket one 4 stepping bank-divisor progression, which your strategy can easily survive without betting much money, like Marty. Of course, what you linked, the Marty kills much more moeny from the bankroll ( maybe the whole bankrooll) than this divisor betting . Maybe I can share with you via PM, because you shared the basic system with me. :thumbsup:

Winner

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 08, 09:28 PM 2019
After 7 loss, 1 win, and 14 loss immadiately. Dont say, that marty, or any of your prgoression can keep it to positive mate. I have in my pocket one 4 stepping bank-divisor progression, which your strategy can easily survive without betting much money, like Marty. Of course, what you linked, the Marty kills much more moeny from the bankroll ( maybe the whole bankrooll) than this divisor betting . Maybe I can share with you via PM, because you shared the basic system with me. :thumbsup:
I’m aware of the divisor it was created for horse racing not roulette so you can divide as much as you want it’s aslow death but you will die .

SWEET

Quote from: Winner on Mar 08, 12:11 PM 2019
Here let’s try some 🧠 games
You have 8 patterns
111.     
112
121
122
222
221
212
212
The probability for one pattern is 1/8
Take for ex .pattern
122 how many time on a continuous run will this show within 36 spins of my pairings sytem
There’s is a limited amount ,it’s up to you to find this . Once you know this all other patterns will be the same then build a system on this finding.
A4 strategy was found from this.
Tip they can’t all come out.
Hi Winner,
They, cant all come out...
Thus we could bet them like John Legend's Pattern Breaker?
As the probability of all, (the last, 8th pattern ) ,
to hit, when 7 pattern has appeared, is quite low...
And use marty to bet...7units risked...

Mister Eko

Quote from: Winner on Mar 08, 09:32 PM 2019
I’m aware of the divisor it was created for horse racing not roulette so you can divide as much as you want it’s aslow death but you will die .

No, it can be use for even chance betting. Its more safer than martingale, I think this kind of betting would be new for 99% of members here

SWEET

If we bet, follow, bet the 122..marthy...
Then...
1/7  must win..

The loser 122,
=211=-7units

Winner

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 08, 09:47 PM 2019
No, it can be use for even chance betting. Its more safer than martingale, I think this kind of betting would be new for 99% of members here
Ok

SWEET

We can also bet a line of 9bet.

123456789first line
123456789second line.

Bet second line following the first line,
Lose all if 2nd line hit exactly against the first line..

eg.
111222111 first
222111222 second, lose all...

The progression, 111234567 stop at profit...lose all=32u

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