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Started by andreib1986, Apr 27, 02:38 AM 2019

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andreib1986

I know this concept was discussed before, but the roullete has memory. The illusion is to say it doesn't have when see you strategy falling. But this is the trick of roulette, its just a deceiver. You have to believe in yourself. Sorry that i speak like in the matrix, but this is what it is: The matrix. It looks that it has no memory, because basicly there is just the present, no history...yet it always remember to take back what once delivered more than it should.

Firefox

Does a coin have memory in the same way as the wheel.

For example say I toss a fair coin and it comes up 20 times heads.

Now I toss it 20 more times.  Am I likely to get more tails than heads in this second trial of 20?

Would tails be a winning bet because now the coin should start giving back more tails because it just gave me 20 heads?

andreib1986

Quote from: Firefox on May 10, 03:59 PM 2019
Does a coin have memory in the same way as the wheel.

For example say I toss a fair coin and it comes up 20 times heads.

Now I toss it 20 more times.  Am I likely to get more tails than heads in this second trial of 20?

Would tails be a winning bet because now the coin should start giving back more tails because it just gave me 20 heads?

I'm not sayn tails have more chances. Im saying we have a strategy. And statisticly in 40 spins it should be almost equal numbers of tails with heads. Of course after first 20 spins are spun the expectence for the next 20 spins is 10 tales and 10 heads,  but since we already had 20 heads, it normaly should be 20 tails.  This won't happen because of its low probabilty. But it will come the moment when probability fulfills its edge and then we will have 20 tales. I know this isnt enlighting for enyone but if we let go the fallacy, we let go the only hope to beat roullete.

6th-sense

thats a basic example firefox,,,a wheel is different..it has locations..it has cycles for different bet locations..a wheel in basic form oscillates..producing different  frequencies coming into and out of wavelengths,,it doesn,t toss it spins.. this is what he is getting at i woud say...
there are a lot more variables than simple heads or tails..

andreib1986

In fact I dont believe a coin is different than a roulette. Its just random.

6th-sense

all locations cannot all be out of sync all over the show at the same time ...you would expect at least one out of all of the varaibles to be showing perfoming how it should...maybe not every spin as such but it,ll move about one from the other locations..otherwise there wouldn,t be cycles..your example gives only two outputs...a split may take 18 spins to hit in its cycle..totally offline to an ec for example..
coin tossing is completetly different it only gives you two options..no variables..

In fact I dont believe a coin is different than a roulette. Its just random.

there is a big difference

andreib1986

If u split the weel in 2 and play first half as 1 number and second half as 2nd number is it?

Firefox

Quote from: andreib1986 on May 10, 04:17 PM 2019I know this isnt enlighting for enyone but if we let go the fallacy, we let go the only hope to beat roullete.

This is true, but you only let go the hope of beating it mathematically.

There are still many other ways to beat it using physics. Dealers signature methods, Visual ballistics,  Computer ballistics, and biased wheel play to name but some.

Casinos make huge amounts of money from roulette. They take a lot of precautions to safeguard their game from physical exploits. They take no such precautions against mathematical exploits. Indeed, they encourage them.

That should tell you all you need to know!

Anyway, I'll let you get back to testing the sleeper system  :wink:

6th-sense

Quote from: andreib1986 on May 10, 04:43 PM 2019
If u split the weel in 2 and play first half as 1 number and second half as 2nd number is it?

But it’s not a coin ..is it ? You can’t compare this example..
You still will have parts of locations on each side of the half’s ..you also have zero ..you still have ec s on each side ..you have everything on each side so it still has variables ..
A coin only has the two sides and it’s zero would probably be the coin edge ..

andreib1986

I believe in the fact that probability has no form, it could be just the wind, the birds flying in the sky, or the number of people passing near you on a regular sunday. Its just measurable numbers.

6th-sense

Quote from: andreib1986 on May 10, 05:49 PM 2019
I believe in the fact that probability has no form, it could be just the wind, the birds flying in the sky, or the number of people passing near you on a regular sunday. Its just measurable numbers.


I like that it sounds very poetic

But all those examples there are not condensed down to a wheel with the same number of pockets and same locations that never change..that example is completely out of text..but I like it


Firefox

Quote from: 6th-sense on May 10, 04:18 PM 2019
thats a basic example firefox,,,a wheel is different..it has locations..it has cycles for different bet locations..a wheel in basic form oscillates..producing different  frequencies coming into and out of wavelengths,,it doesn,t toss it spins.. this is what he is getting at i woud say...
there are a lot more variables than simple heads or tails..

But the point of my example is both are examples of independent trials.

Both are inanimate objects with no memory.

On both, the result of the next trial does not depend on the previous trial or trials. Both are examples of a priori mechanisms.

andreib1986

To make more simple the progression, I made some changes:


9
9
18
18
27
27
54
54
63
63
72
72

486 units  Stop after first win, restart proces. Stop if no win at spin 36.

andreib1986

During the latest tests, the results show that is better to play only 4 spins, due to moments when cold numbers get even colder, and if that happens all progression can be in vain.

So i call it 4 spins only - 25 26 27 28 - that is our atack zone. small progression: 9 18 27 36 = 90 units (for 9 numbers).

When budget is lost use recovery (must wait for another 24 spins): 18 36 54 72 = 180 units (for 9 numbers) - play 2 games in a row.

Game Bankroll+Recovery: 270 units.  Total bankroll: 2700 units.

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