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1-2-3-5 Positive Progression In A Negative Progression

Started by GLC, Jul 16, 11:34 PM 2012

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GLC

 I know that all the mean guys on this forum are going to jump all over this system, but I can take it.  I’m posting this for guys like lorna dune.  To give him a new thought and to encourage him to open up.

This system is based on “The Author’s System”:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/bet-selection/author's-system/

We play the exact same way regarding Same Opposite Same Opposite etc…

We’re going to change the bet progression.  Here’s the base progression.

1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-4-4-4-5-5-6-6-7-7-8-9

If we lose the whole progression we will lose 100 units. 
This is a positive progression hiding within a negative progression.  That means that when we lose at a level, we move to the right one level.  Any time we win at a level, we will be fully recovered and can start over at level 1.  That's the negative progression.

Each of the numbers in our progression line represents 1-4 bets.  These 4 bets are built on a positive progression.  The basic positive progression is 1-2-3-5.  If we win all 4 bets we will be ahead by 11 units.
If we lose the 1st bet we will be down 1 unit and must move one step to the right on our base line. 
If we win the 1st bet and lose the 2nd bet we will be down 1 unit and must move one step to the right on our base line.
If we win the 1st bet and win the 2nd bet and lose the 3rd bet we will be even and can replay the same bet again.
If we win the 1st bet and win the 2nd bet and win the 3rd bet and we lose the 4th bet we will have won 1 unit and can drop back 1 level.
If we win all 4 bets we will be ahead by 11 units and can re-set to the very 1st 1 in our base line.

Here’s a quick analysis of how it works.  We bet 1 and win so now we have 2.  We bet those 2 and win so now we have 4.  We take our original bet of 1 back and bet 3 and win so now we have 6.  We take another unit back and bet 5 and win so now we have 10 plus the one we just took back for a total win of +11 and we got our original bet back also.

If we had won the 1st, and the 2nd  and lost the 3rd bet, we would break even because we had 4 units after winning the 2nd bet but we only bet 3 for the 3rd bet returning our original unit to us.

If we had won the 1st, 2nd and 3rd bets and lost the 4th bet we would be at +1 because we pulled back our original bet when we had 4 units but only bet 3 and on the 4th bet we had 6 units but only bet 5 which gave us a unit profit if we lose the 4th bet.

That’s how it’s played.  If we’re betting on a level above 1, we just multiply the 4 bets I just outlined by the level number and those are out bets.  So at level 3 we will bet 3-6-9-15 and if we win all 4 bets we will win 33 units. 3=6; 6=12; 12-3=9=18; 18-3=15=30.  30 plus 3 = 33 plus the 3 I took back on the 3rd bet gives me my original bet back.

It’s a piece of cake.

Ralph, see if you can lose with this one!  Mate. :thumbsup:
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

TwoCatSam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

ScoobyDoo

Hi Sam,
Well sice the link says that the "Authors System" Does not exist any more, maybe you could enlighten us on it.


Please explain how it is played and what are you betting on?....The ECs?


ScoobyDoo

Ralph

Yes I will try it, at BV with i cent chips.  Reporting back!
Will first read your post once more to be sure I got all right.
Yesterday all my play was 789 Euro plus at most, but ended with just 70.
The last sessions were against me, and I think if I did not stop, the day should have a loss.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

keel44

I really like it.  I have always believed in using "house" money to try to recoup losses.  I think you are really on to something.  4 in a row is not much to ask for? ---- is it?

Ralph

I use to play Guetting, a slow loser and if it hit, a good winner. This progression is very good
when you have a lucky day. A martingaler get 10 chips in a ten streak, and with positive progression the pocket will be full.
The  bank risk a lot and the player a few chips, and with martingale it is opposite.

This has some of this, you do not need to win all five in  a row.

I was up (down) to level 4 a few times. No graph but the figures here:

Start with 10 Euro in playbank, will use more if needed.
I did not fullfill the play in the higher levels if I got to  -1 from new high, and reset to one unit.


1001
1012
1024
1029
1032
1044
1060
1063
1064
1065
1068
1069
1074
1077
1082
1083
1087
1099
1100
change to 0.1 Euro
1170
1240
1290
1360
1370
1380
1390
1500
1510
1620
1630
1702
1802
1850
1940
2030
change to 0.5 Euro
Bank of 10 Euro had to be 20 Euro
2280
2830
2930
3080
Put back 10 Euro to account
3630
3880
4180
Put back 10 Euro to account
Play with winnings rest of this session.
3180
3330  Down to 9 Euro in bank before recover.
3380
3530
3780  Down to 11 Euro in bank before recover.
3880
4130
4780 Down to about 6 Euro before recover.
4980
5130  I think I should stop here 50 Euro is not bad.
      20 Euro max at play account.

This time everthing went better, more luck plus certainly
a better method than the previous post.















The best way to fail, is not to try!

kawa4711


Ralph

Quote from: kawa4711 on Jul 17, 04:35 AM 2012
I don't know if this is this Author s system but see this link:

link:://archive.org/stream/montecarloanecdo00bethiala#page/78/mode/2up

Best regards

kawa4711

He use negative progression, 1 ,2.3,6. So it is not the same.

He sicksac to not be stuck in runs and chops. This is just for our eys, as this pattern is so easy to see, i will not change our chanses.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

vladir

This seems a very well tougth MM... We have 32 chances to win 4 in a row to win 1 or more units. And when we get only 3 in a row, we get an extra try... I wonder how many units can we win on average before loosing the 100 BR...




"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

vladir

I will give this a try in BV with 11 euros when I have time, with an extra twist :)

Initial BR 100 units of 1 cent = 1 â,¬

If I loose, next BR I use is 100 units of 10 cents(=10â,¬), just to recover 1â,¬ and immediatly draw back to BR of 100 units at 1 cent.





"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

Ralph

Quote from: vladir on Jul 17, 06:45 AM 2012
I will give this a try in BV with 11 euros when I have time, with an extra twist :)

Initial BR 100 units of 1 cent = 1 â,¬

If I lose, next BR I use is 100 units of 10 cents(=10â,¬), just to recover 1â,¬ and immediatly draw back to BR of 100 units at 1 cent.

I like this way to recover, 10 x chips can make it faster. Sometimes I play EC flat, note the losses and when I have a feeling of flow, I bet a couple of big flat bets, hope for at least one more win than loss in near future spins.
We play cents, but do we really, check the table total after some bets.
Checked last longer session, started with 10 cent, and at the end it were a turnover of 60000 Euro. 2600 spins.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

N1CKYYY

Quick question:

Here is the base line: 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-4-4-4-5-5-6-6-7-7-8-9

Does it mean that we play 11 times level 1 using the progression 1-2-3-5. Then if we are not ahead we go to level 2 playing it 6 times?

if that is the case what happens when we play level 1 and we lose first two attempts but on third attempt ( out of eleven ) we win 3 times in a row ( now we will be plus ) but if we play for the fourth atempt which will be to put 5 units if we lose we will be some units down because we have already lost first two atempts on level 1 as i mentioned.

I am just a little confused so please explain it .

10x in advance

vladir

Quote from: N1CKYYY on Jul 17, 08:08 AM 2012
Quick question:

Here is the base line: 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-4-4-4-5-5-6-6-7-7-8-9

Does it mean that we play 11 times level 1 using the progression 1-2-3-5. Then if we are not ahead we go to level 2 playing it 6 times?

Yes, but as soon as you win one of the 1-2-3-5 progressions, you go back to start. You only play 11 times if none of them wins the 4 bets.


Quote from: N1CKYYY on Jul 17, 08:08 AM 2012

if that is the case what happens when we play level 1 and we lose first two attempts but on third attempt ( out of eleven ) we win 3 times in a row ( now we will be plus ) but if we play for the fourth atempt which will be to put 5 units if we lose we will be some units down because we have already lost first two atempts on level 1 as i mentioned.

I am just a little confused so please explain it .

10x in advance

If you loose first 2 attempts, you are down 2 units. On the 3rd attempt, if you win 3 and lose the 4th bet, you have won 1 unit on that attempt, so you will have an overall down of 1 unit.
(the 2 units you were down, less 1 that you have recovered in the last attempt)

Hope it's clear for you... and I haven't made any mistake in understing the system. If somethin is not clear or correct, ask.
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

N1CKYYY

I got it.

I tested the system at bevoyager and won 30 units. Max level progression was 3. With a little patience the system is a winner for me.

I will make simulation and post results. If in the long run the system defends the money and when we have luck win i will make a bot.

vladir

Quote from: N1CKYYY on Jul 17, 10:03 AM 2012
I got it.

I tested the system at bevoyager and won 30 units. Max level progression was 3. With a little patience the system is a winner for me.

I will make simulation and post results. If in the long run the system defends the money and when we have luck win i will make a bot.

If you do it, add the twist I sugested previously if you can.

PS: It eventually could have another lvl, if we have a bankroll of 100â,¬ - playing with units of 1â,¬ to recover the 10 we may have lost before when playing the second bankroll of 10â,¬.
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

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