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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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miniroll171

Quote from: Winner on Feb 21, 02:18 PM 2019
222112122211111221=9 no win no loss but watch now the switch
12212221021121102212=10 +5 easy
112121122111121112=6 now the switch
211111121222122111=+1 not much profit but still. A win
212220201211211012112=9-2 now the switch
2211111122220212212=+10 +3 add it up +9 very small progression.

Winner, do you continue your progression from one game to the next, or start each game fresh at level 1 progression?

So if you finished a game with 2 losses, and your progression was say 1 2 4 8, you would finish that game by betting 2 units and losing, would you then start the next game betting 4 units on your first bet, or restart the progression sequence by betting 1 unit as the first bet on a new game?

miniroll171

Quote from: Winner on Feb 20, 05:19 PM 2019
Here was my session today  played my perfect switch
2221122112211112222111+12
:lllwllwwllwl:wllw
212222222211222221 +13
wl::wwlll:wl

I'm testing your system to see if I have it right but my results don't match yours. I assume you are using a 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 progression on this result:

212222222211222221 +13

So your first bet is on number 2 in both the games, but the first number on row 1 of you table is a 1?

1st 1221212
2-    21111222
3-11212212
4-12111112
5-22211211
6-22211211
7-12211221
8-21212111
9-112212111

So here is the game where you won +13 broken down as I see it

Result     You Bet On      Amount bet       Win/Lose       Balance
2               1 (1st Line)              1                    Lose               -1
So on a lose you bet the next number to the right on the current ine
1                2 (1st Line)             2                     Lose              -3               
2                2 (1st Line)             4                     Win                 1
So now you have won you move down to the next line and start with the first number on the left?
2                  2 (2nd Line)           1                      Win               1
Move down another line as won
2                  1 (3rd Line)             1                    Lose               1
2                  1 (3rd Line)             2                    Lose              -1
2                  2 (3rd Line)             4                    Win                 3
Move down to line 4 as won
2                  1 (4th Line)              1                   Lose                2
2                   2 (4th Line)             2                   Win                  4
Move down to line 5
2                  2 (5th Line)              1                    Win                  5
Move down to line 6
1                 2 (6th Line)               1                    Lose                 4
1                 2 (6th Line)               2                    Lose                 2
2                 2 (6th Line)               4                    Win                   6
Move down to line 7
2                 1 (7th Line)               1                    Lose                 5                   
2                 2 (7th Line)               2                    Win                   7
Move down to 8th Line
2                 2 (8th Line)               1                    Win                    8
Move down to 9th Line
2                 1 (9th Line)               1                    Lose                   7
1                 1 (9th Line)               2                   Win                      9

So you see I make it a win of 9 units? So Im not sure i'm doing it right? Could you point out where I'm going wrong please?









atlantis

Here are the 30 "switch patterns" again updated with winner's typing amendments. Each pattern should consist of a line of 8.

1-12211212
2-21111222
3-11212212
4-12111112
5-22211211
6-22111211
7-12211221
8-21212111
9-11221211
10-22222222
11-22212221
12-22112222
13-12111122
14-11112122
15-12221121
16-12122111
17-11111112
18-11111221
19-11112222
20-22221221
21-12222122
22-11122211
23-11121222
24-22212212
25-12221121
26-22111211
27-21222122
28-11211211
29-11211111
30-22121111
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Quote from: miniroll171 on Feb 21, 06:25 PM 2019
I'm testing your system to see if I have it right but my results don't match yours. I assume you are using a 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 progression on this result:

212222222211222221 +13

I make it a win of 9 units? So I'm not sure i'm doing it right? Could you point out where I'm going wrong please?

I got +9 too...
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

RayManZ

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 22, 04:18 AM 2019
I got +9 too...

He said he does not use those patterns anymore. He is one stage further.

Get those 30.000 cycle of 36 spins and look at the averages. How many 2's? 1? 11? 111? 1111? 222? 2222? etc. Could be the awnser. I dont know. Maybe winner can respond to my sugestion.

-Katalyst-

Further to the above - what Winner has shown are patterns to go through/experiment with - and in doing so - he suggests that one may come across/become familiar with the switching patterns
- he hasn't disclosed his specific play as yet so you are not going to get the same result as him
-what was on offer was the opportunity to find those 'switch' patterns - the crux of this approach
......random not being so random where volumes/clusters are concerned

-Best Wishes-
-there is no off switch for the genius button -

“envy is ignorance, imitation is suicide”

precogmiles

Quote from: -Katalyst- on Feb 22, 09:46 AM 2019
Further to the above - what Winner has shown are patterns to go through/experiment with - and in doing so - he suggests that one may come across/become familiar with the switching patterns
- he hasn't disclosed his specific play as yet so you are not going to get the same result as him
-what was on offer was the opportunity to find those 'switch' patterns - the crux of this approach
......random not being so random where volumes/clusters are concerned

-Best Wishes-

Very smart, this is what most people don't understand.

Mister Eko

Quote from: RayManZ on Feb 22, 09:30 AM 2019
He said he does not use those patterns anymore. He is one stage further.

Get those 30.000 cycle of 36 spins and look at the averages. How many 2's? 1? 11? 111? 1111? 222? 2222? etc. Could be the awnser. I dont know. Maybe winner can respond to my sugestion.

The avareges not makes sense for the systems. Maybe he switch only one number, then if lost he switch fkr pairs, then three and four numbers. Example bet 1, came, so lost, he bets 2 2 or something pair of numbers, if lost bets 1 1 1 or 1 2 1, then 4 numbers.

What dk you think guys? Winner?

atlantis

Maybe it to so with Sputnik's idea of "triplets": singles, series of 2 and series of 2+...?

1212221112 = singles and series of 2+

2221122111 = series of 2 and series of 2+

122122122 = singles and series of 2

1221112212 = singles, series of 2 and series of 2+

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

6th-sense

just get someone  to excel all combos and  find the least popular..then make a mm to deal with it..keeping mm within parameters of losing less in ratio to the rest of other combos that are possible and bet against it happening

Mister Eko

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 22, 01:22 PM 2019
Maybe it to so with Sputnik's idea of "triplets": singles, series of 2 and series of 2+...?

1212221112 = singles and series of 2+

2221122111 = series of 2 and series of 2+

122122122 = singles and series of 2

1221112212 = singles, series of 2 and series of 2+

A.

I like you man, you have similar thinking like me :thumbsup:

miniroll171

I've been running some tests on the system Winner released to us. Ive run it over 10,000 games betting on Chop and Runs. This is all flat betting 1 unit per bet with no progression used.

The aim was to see if using the pattern provided by Winner would increase the amnount of wins compared to just randomly betting on Chops or Runs.

As you can see the results are pretty simular. So i'm not sure it offers any real advantage.

However, Winner is obviously making his system work, and he no doubt plays it differently to us and uses different numbers.

This test was really just for me to see if the numbers provided would increase my chance of winning, and thought I would share for anyone else wondering.


Winners System
Profit after 10,000 Games: -5195
Longest losing run: 17

Second Test of Winner's System
Profit after 10,000 Games: -5077
Longest losing run: 21



Random betting on Chops or Runs
Profit after 10,000 Games: -4858
Longest losing run: 20

Second Test of Random betting
Profit after 10,000 Games: -5232
Longest losing run: 17

6th-sense

you sure he,s doing chops ..not following for a streak by converting results to a 3 unit base bet ..one on dozen 1 or dozen 3 depending on hi or lo  and one unit each on the last two ds hit in hi or lo in conjunction..

Winner

Quote from: Winner on Feb 21, 11:36 AM 2019
stage 4 is where you would you get stats like 3599/1
The first 3 stages are the guts and the 4 stages is the glory .
Even money has been dealt with .
Not hard to play inside now with less numbers.
Now Turbo mentions playing repeats you can’t have 2 unless 1comes out you can’t have 3 unless 2 shows and so on so my even money makes this kind of play even easier.
Find the 4 stage and start milking the cash 🐄

6th-sense

i did mention playing inside bets but you said it was too advanced  :question:

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