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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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atlantis

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The probability for one pattern is 1/8
Take for ex .pattern
122 how many time on a continuous run will this show within 36 spins of my pairings sytem
There’s is a limited amount ,it’s up to you to find this . Once you know this all other patterns will be the same then build a system on this finding.
A4 strategy was found from this.
Tip they can’t all come out.

36 spins=18 'pair results'

18 results = 6 'triplet patterns'

The max you could get 'continuously' from 36 real number spins with that particular combo therefore would be:

122122122122122122 = 6 TIMES

Each triplet has 1 in 8 chance of  appearing.

But looking at a couple of thousand results it seem more likely to show up only 1, 2 or 3 times...

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Firefox

Quote from: Winner on Mar 08, 09:27 PM 2019
It’s only poor if you don’t no what your doing.

You clearly don't know what you're doing if you are exposing bets like 32,64,and 128 to the house edge to claw back one unit.

If you must use a progression, use something like Sweet's example. It doesn't contain huge bets and thus will lose less long term.

Winner

Quote from: Firefox on Mar 09, 05:24 AM 2019
You clearly don't know what you're doing if you are exposing bets like 32,64,and 128 to the house edge to claw back one unit.

If you must use a progression, use something like Sweet's example. It doesn't contain huge bets and thus will lose less long term.
Cracks me up when gamblers use the words long term .PLease define This because clearly you don’t have a clue ,is this 30 /100 years I don’t know what you mean .lol
And you have no idea on how I play in real time and when I use progression and when I don’t .so there are no rules when it come to gambling only disapline
Clearly your not an outside player so no clue why you responde to post that you don’t have experience in .
If you want me to coach you personally let me know I do have a price .and I will show how do do visuals in a better way then you know.

Winner

Quote from: atlantis on Mar 09, 05:13 AM 2019
36 spins=18 'pair results'

18 results = 6 'triplet patterns'

The max you could get 'continuously' from 36 real number spins with that particular combo therefore would be:

122122122122122122 = 6 TIMES

Each triplet has 1 in 8 chance of  appearing.

But looking at a couple of thousand results it seem more likely to show up only 1, 2 or 3 times...

A.
I have 40000 result Atlantis on @ double zero haven’t experienced it not saying can never happen but at the same time I never seen 38 numbers come out In 38 spins .and I’m sure you haven’t either you been at this a long time.

Winner

Quote from: SWEET on Mar 08, 09:44 PM 2019
Hi Winner,
They, cant all come out...
Thus we could bet them like John Legend's Pattern Breaker?
As the probability of all, (the last, 8th pattern ) ,
to hit, when 7 pattern has appeared, is quite low...
And use marty to bet...7units risked...
The problem with johns systems you can grow old befor you put a bet Down boring and they lose.

Mister Eko

Quote from: Winner on Mar 09, 11:58 AM 2019
The problem with johns systems you can grow old befor you put a bet Down boring and they lose.

True. Dont use johnson progression. Try infinite divisor. Maybe I will post it later. Its in finalization now, unbeatable

Winner

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 12:19 PM 2019
True. Dont use johnson progression. Try infinite divisor. Maybe I will post it later. Its in finalization now, unbeatable
Unbeatable music to my ear

atlantis

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I have 40000 result Atlantis on @ double zero haven’t experienced it not saying can never happen but at the same time I never seen 38 numbers come out In 38 spins .and I’m sure you haven’t either you been at this a long time.

With the triplet 'pair' combos it very rare to see a pattern of 18 results with same triplet repeating SIX TIMES IN A ROW.
So one idea would be if you see last three 'pair' results are 121 (that's already 3 results of the 18) you can start by betting AGAINST it. Keep betting against 121 happening in that order every three results until a win. Then take the last 3 pair results and restart eg:

121-121-2
        LLL-w

212-22
       Lw


222-221
       LLw

221-221-21
        LLL-Lw

121-2
       w

212-212-212-1
       LLL - LLL -w

Need to use mild progression?
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

jono1167

Quote from: atlantis on Mar 09, 01:39 PM 2019
With the triplet 'pair' combos it very rare to see a pattern of 18 results with same triplet repeating SIX TIMES IN A ROW.
So one idea would be if you see last three 'pair' results are 121 (that's already 3 results of the 18) you can start by betting AGAINST it. Keep betting against 121 happening in that order every three results until a win. Then take the last 3 pair results and restart eg:

121-121-2
        LLL-w

212-22
       Lw


222-221
       LLw

221-221-21
        LLL-Lw

121-2
       w

212-212-212-1
       LLL - LLL -w

Need to use mild progression?

Great work Atlantis. Breaking it down like this shows how much potential this method has and how robust it is.

People who are conservative and don’t want to use the marty, can try the staking plan below. GLC takes the credit for this.....

The staking plan is broken down into lines. Each line is broken down into groups of five results. If at the end of five results you are in profit, you stay on the same staking level for another 5 bets. If at the end of five results you have a loss, then you increase the wager for another 5 results.

Level 1 (5 bets of 1 unit)
1          1         1          1         1     
If you finish these five results for a loss, then you increase the wager by one unit for another 5 results)

Level 2 (5 bets of 2 units)
2          2         2          2         2     

Level 3 (5 bets of 3 units)
3         3         3          3         3   

When you finish in profit at the end of 5 results, you drop a back a level.

jono1167

Quote from: jono1167 on Mar 09, 05:03 PM 2019
Great work Atlantis. Breaking it down like this shows how much potential this method has and how robust it is.

People who are conservative and don’t want to use the marty, can try the staking plan below. GLC takes the credit for this.....

The staking plan is broken down into lines. Each line is broken down into groups of five results. If at the end of five results you are in profit, you stay on the same staking level for another 5 bets. If at the end of five results you have a loss, then you increase the wager for another 5 results.

Level 1 (5 bets of 1 unit)
1          1         1          1         1     
If you finish these five results for a loss, then you increase the wager by one unit for another 5 results)

Level 2 (5 bets of 2 units)
2          2         2          2         2     

Level 3 (5 bets of 3 units)
3         3         3          3         3   

When you finish in profit at the end of 5 results, you drop a back a level.

Quick example:

2, 2, 2 - 1
             W

2, 2, 1 - 2, 1
              L  W

1, 2, 1 - 1, 1
             L  W

5 results - W L W L W (5 bets of 1 unit)
Apply these results to the five level staking plan.

Level 1 (5 bets of 1 unit)
1          1         1          1         1         
W        L        W        L         W        +1

+1 overall. Stay on level one for another 5 bets.

Mister Eko

Problem with this that only first win gives profit. Second win even, third win -1, fourth win -2 overall.

jono1167

Quote from: jono1167 on Mar 09, 05:09 PM 2019
Quick example:

2, 2, 2 - 1
             W

2, 2, 1 - 2, 1
              L  W

1, 2, 1 - 1, 1
             L  W

5 results - W L W L W (5 bets of 1 unit)
Apply these results to the five level staking plan.

Level 1 (5 bets of 1 unit)
1          1         1          1         1         
W        L        W        L         W        +1

+1 overall. Stay on level one for another 5 bets.

More results

1, 1, 1 - 1, 2
            L  W
1, 1, 2 - 1, 2
             L W
2, 1, 2 - 1
             W

Continue Level 1 (5 bets of 1 unit)
1          1         1          1         1         
L        W        L        W         W        +1 (+2 overall)

1, 2, 1 - 1, 2, 2
             L  L  W
1, 2, 2 - 1, 1
              L W
Level 1 (5 bets of 1 unit)
1          1         1          1         1         
L        L        W          L         W        -1 (+1 overall)

2, 1, 1 - 1
             W
1, 1, 1 - 2
             W
1, 1, 2 - 1, 1, 2
             L L L
Level 2 (5 bets of 2 units)
2          2         2          2         2     
W        W        L          L.        L.    -2 (-1 overall)


1, 1, 2 - 1, 2, 1
             L W w
1, 2, 1 - 2, 2
              W L
Level 3 (5 bets of 2 units)
3          3         3          3         3     
L        W        W          W        L    +3 (+2 overall)

Wow! It’s a grind....!

jono1167

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 06:24 PM 2019
Problem with this that only first win gives profit. Second win even, third win -1, fourth win -2 overall.

You just take it one line at a time. If you loose one line you move to the next line etc.....

It’s a grind though!!!

Please share the divisor method and we can give it a test. Thanks 😊

SWEET

We could even ' filtered' the 18result into half, to 9results.
Say..
For easy visual, first 9results=1, last remaining=2
18 results=
111111111.222222222

That will become...
111111111(above)
222222222(below)

Then if bet against=win all 9spins,
If follow=lose all...

121212121above
212121212below...against=win all, follow=lose all.

111222111
222111222...same win all , lose all

THE MAIN POINT=just nine spins, easy to play, with marthy...

SWEET

We could also wait for, the perceived LIMIT, of only 3hit/18 results.

If first 9decision, has no hit, then there COULD  be 3hit in next 9decisions.

If only 1hit, then there be 2/9
If only 2hit, then 1/9
If 3hit, then no bet...
What you think?

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