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#### Mister Eko

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 12, 09:01 PM 2019
Continuous play, switching between A (against betting) and S (same betting).

1,1,2, (A) 2,2,1, +3 (S) 1,1,1, +2 (nb) 1,1,1, (A) 1,2,1, +1 (S) 2,0,1,1, +2 (S) 2,1,2, +3 (S) +6 (A) 2,1,2, +3 (A) 2,2,1, +4 (S) 2,2,2, +5 NB 2,2,2, (A) 1,2,1, +6 (S)1,2,0,1, +9 (A) 2,1,2, +12 (S) 1,1,1, +11 NB 1,2,1, (A) 2,2,2, +12 NB 1,2,2, (A) 1,2,1, +11 (S) 2,1,1, +10 (S) 1,1,2, +9 (S) 2,1,1, +8 (level 2 S) 2,1,1, +14 (level 1 A) 1,2,2, +17 (S) 2,1,1, +14 (A) 1,2,1, +15 (S) 1,1,2, +16 (S) 2,2,1, +13 (S) 2,2,1, +16 (A) 2,1,2, +17 (S) 2,1,2, +20 (A) 2,2,2, +19 (NB) 1,1,1, (NB )1,1,1, (A) 2,1,1, +18 (S)2,2,1, +19 (S)1,2,1, +20 (S) 2,1,2, +17 (A)2,1,1, +16 (S) 1,2,1, +15 (level 2 same) 1,1,0,1, +17 (NB) 2,2,1, (A) 1,1,2, +23 (level 1 S) 1,1,2, +26 (A) 2,2,1, +29 (S) 1,2,1, +30 (S) 1,2,1, +33 (A) 1,1,1, +32 (NB) 1,2,2, (A) 1,1,2, +31 (S) 1,2,1, +30 (S) 1,1,2, +29 (S) 1,2,1, +28 level 2 (S) 1,2,1, +34 (level 1 A) 2,1,1, +35 (S) 1,1,1, +36 (NB) 1,1,1, (A) 1,2,2, +37 (S) 1,2,1, (+38 S)2,2,2, +37 (NB) 2,1,1, (A) 1,1,1, +36 (nb) 1,2,2, (A) 1,1,2, +35 (S) 1,1,1, +36 (nb) 2,2,1, (A) 1,2,1, +35 (S) 1,2,1, +38 (A)1,2,1, +35 (A) 0,1,2,2, +34 ( S) 1,1,1, (+33 level 2 nb) 0,1,1,2, (A)1,2,2, +31 (S) 1,1,1, (+29 nb) 0,1,2,2, (A) 2,0,0,1,2,(+31 S)2,2,2, +33 NB

#### Winner

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 12, 10:09 PM 2019
Mister Eko that’s great man the more ways to play the better if you have for ex 5methods
and switch form method to method and win a few units and then-call it a day.

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 12, 10:20 PM 2019
Remember we’re trying to milk the cow not kill it

#### Mister Eko

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 12, 10:26 PM 2019
Yes yes milk like natural big boobs mate

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 12, 10:35 PM 2019
Yes yes milk like natural big boobs mate
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#### jono1167

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 12, 11:46 PM 2019
After recent developments, the following may appear redundant, but I thought I would share the results anyway. This was completed a couple of days ago.

This is a continuation of Atlantis’ idea of betting against the third triplet appearing. Please see below. 140 spins have produced 13 betting opportunities. There’s a lot of waiting around, but the system is quite robust.

Colours
Blue – double triplet. Begin betting against third triplet.
Red – losing bets
Green – winning bet

1 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 0 2 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 0 0 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2  1 1 1 2 2 1 2 1 1 0 1 1 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 2 2 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 2 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 1

Broken down, the 13 betting opportunities look like this.
L L W     L W     W      L L W     L W    W      W

What’s the best money management to use?

I ran all the results through the popular MM methods. These are sorted from most successful to least successful.

Mini-labouchere: +8
Martingale: +7
D’Alembert: +7
Best of five: +6
Fibonacci: +5
Flat bet: +1

#### jono1167

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 12, 11:48 PM 2019
Yes yes milk like natural big boobs mate

This thread keeps getting better......!!

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 13, 12:44 AM 2019
After recent developments, the following may appear redundant, but I thought I would share the results anyway. This was completed a couple of days ago.

This is a continuation of Atlantis’ idea of betting against the third triplet appearing. Please see below. 140 spins have produced 13 betting opportunities. There’s a lot of waiting around, but the system is quite robust.

Colours
Blue – double triplet. Begin betting against third triplet.
Red – losing bets
Green – winning bet

1 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 0 2 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 0 0 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2  1 1 1 2 2 1 2 1 1 0 1 1 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 2 2 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 2 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 1

Broken down, the 13 betting opportunities look like this.
L L W     L W     W      L L W     L W    W      W

What’s the best money management to use?

I ran all the results through the popular MM methods. These are sorted from most successful to least successful.

Mini-labouchere: +8
Martingale: +7
D’Alembert: +7
Best of five: +6
Fibonacci: +5
Flat bet: +1
I like the results 👍🏼

#### Andre Chass

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 13, 01:46 AM 2019
Excuse me, It seems you guys are playing  a mix of Pattern Attack and Pattern Breaker on roulette.

I think is better don't play these patterns for obvious reasons:

111 1111111...
222  2222222...
121  2121212...
212 12121212...
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

#### loukoumas

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 13, 08:45 AM 2019
In matrix 4 style, track vertically for dominants or non dominants after 3. Write down the horizontal  formation   of 4 dominants or 4 non dominants in a row anywhere in the matrix and bet opposite up to 3 times for the run to break. I used prog 1,1,2  ( a cyclic 111,222,333,.. may also  fit to this i guess..).
2 2 2 2
1 1 2 2
2 2 2 2
2 2 1 1
2 1 2 2
2 2 1 1    bet opp here, W
2 1 1 1
2 2 1 2
1 2 1 2
2 1 2 1
1 2 1 2    bet opp here, W
2 1 1 2
1 2 1 1
1 1 1 2
1 2 1 1
1 1 1 2
2 1 2 2
1 2 1 1
1 1 2 2
1 2 2 2
1 1 2 1
2 2 2 2
2 1 2 1
1 2 2 2
1 2 2 1
1 2 2 1
2 1 2 2     bet opp here, W
2 1 2 2
2 1 1 2
1 2 2 1
1 2 1
1     bet opp here, LLW
2 2 2 1
I still cant determine  if the optimal trigger is after 4 or  3 runs for this approach ( 4 runs is safer but someone could also play after 3 for faster results).

#### loukoumas

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 13, 10:40 AM 2019
@Andre
Its not exactly as you have it in your mind. 1, 2 stands for a pair of ECs (e.g  1.1.1,1.1,1,1 stands for 7 alternate H/L in a row. How many times have you seen this pattern? Very rarely. Apart from this, we try avoid to play this system continuously, thats why we are talking for same pairs, same triplets, triggers, stoploss progs etc., to cope with variance and come ahead. This is more sophisticated than PB which is more exposed to randomness than this. I suggest you to re-read the whole thread and systems posted here and you will discover a lot of potential with ECs,  the easiest bet someone can make in roulette..

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 13, 01:29 PM 2019
This is a nice profit earner . Got up this morning had my first cup of coffee and I thought I know what the wheel can’t do but what does it do often  .
The #3 in a session plays a big role .Now I have tested this many times and had great results a little slower but none the less  good profit .
Here is a list for people just coming on the seen and doesn’t know what the hell is  going on.
Here is a list of ways to play.
1 -bet either 1sor 2s flat bet until your +1 stop move to next method
2- bet opposite or same from first pattern until +1 flat bet move to next method
3-bet for magic 30 until 1 unit +
4-bet either 1or2s count -4 without betting virtually ,then bet 248163264 for 1 unit , risky yes use at your desecration
5 the best one . You track the first 3 and you bet the dominant until you hit 3 ex
112 I’ll bet 1 firt 3 spins if you lose wait for the break and retract another .
Ex 112 1 w
112 -221.w
112-222 L wait for it to break
112-22222221 here’s the break
112-2222222121bet 1 for3 spins
Hope this help everyone and like mister Eko says milk the boobies don’t kill them.

#### Andre Chass

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 13, 02:13 PM 2019
I re read the thread and now I understand it.

It's a very interesting strategy. I love using this kind of strategies playing baccarat or roulette.

Congrats!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

#### atlantis

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 13, 02:27 PM 2019
This is a nice profit earner . Got up this morning had my first cup of coffee and I thought I know what the wheel can’t do but what does it do often  .
The #3 in a session plays a big role .Now I have tested this many times and had great results a little slower but none the less  good profit .
Here is a list for people just coming on the seen and doesn’t know what the hell is  going on.
Here is a list of ways to play.
1 -bet either 1sor 2s flat bet until your +1 stop move to next method
2- bet opposite or same from first pattern until +1 flat bet move to next method
3-bet for magic 30 until 1 unit +
4-bet either 1or2s count -4 without betting virtually ,then bet 248163264 for 1 unit , risky yes use at your desecration
5 the best one . You track the first 3 and you bet the dominant until you hit 3 ex
112 I’ll bet 1 firt 3 spins if you lose wait for the break and retract another .
Ex 112 1 w
112 -221.w
112-222 L wait for it to break
112-22222221 here’s the break
112-2222222121bet 1 for3 spins
Hope this help everyone and like mister Eko says milk the boobies don’t kill them.

I tried your #5 idea which you said was "best":

211-2 w
121-1 w
221-111-11212-2 LLLw
211-2 w
122-1 w
222-2 w
222-2 w
122-21 Lw
1221 w
111-221 LLw
222-2 w
212-2 w
221-12 Lw
112-1 w
121-1 w
212-2 w
111-1 w
212-12 Lw
221-2 w
112-1 w
221-2 w
212-2 w
222-111-211-12 LLLLw
112-1 w
212-2 w

25 wins
Longest Losing run=4
Nice - Could be decent with suitable progression!
I stopped after each win and restart tracking on new line.

PS - OH! just realised I had bet the first leg of the starting triplet for max of 3 times - and NOT the dominant!!!!
Still it seemed to work good
EG 112 - bet the 1
EG 212 - bet the 2
EG 122 - bet the 1

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

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##### Re: Beating the even money
Mar 13, 03:59 PM 2019
Here are som LW results from method 5
wwlw+2
Wwww+4
Wllwww+2
Llwlwl+0
Llwlww+0
Wwwww+5
Lwwww+4
Lllww-1
Wwww+4
Wwllllw-1
Llllwww-1
Wwwlllw+1
Wllllwwwww+2
Lwwllw+0
Wwwww+5
Lwwlw+1
Lllww-1
Lllwwllllw-4
Llww+0
Wllllw-2lwwllww+1
315 spin flat as for for those who don’t like progression

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