Some ideas on table layout betting. (Subject modified)

[falkor]

OK that looks perfect re: DS 1!

Now I have DS 2 tests running on 6 computers so that I can gather enough data (one test isn't enough for that), and whilst I wait 4 hours for that I am going to quickly rig up the more simpler Formula CBW system for testing together with their simple progression.

[atlantis]

Thanks for all your hard work...
Good luck. (Wish I could understand what you're doing)
Will be interesting to hear about the rouletteCBW too

A.

[thelaw]

39 pages of "data" and no system


John Legend rides again???

[falkor]

That CBW loses big time... it's practically like playing an EC, but with Double Streets instead of Red-Black. Warriors is way more promising than that...

[falkor]

39 pages of "data" and no system


John Legend rides again???

Unfortunately, there's still a bit more work to do to tweak it right so that it doesn't break the bank like CBW does. Warriors will turn out to be a truly professional system though - not a simple repetitive losing system disguised as a professional system!

[atlantis]

Hi Falkor,
Thx for update re RouletteCBW. I am not too surprised as I kinda expected those sorts of results from that.
But credit & kudos to you for continuing to persist with warrior's idea and searching for ideal playing strategy. 

A.

[winkel]

39 pages of "data" and no system

can you imagine that this falkor complained about my one-rule-system "If there´s a crossing - bet that crossing"?
Now he is making rules for every DS. Who told him that any DS is not behaving like the others?
He is making stats, that he denied would work, when I referred to them at my GUT.

Rules and more rules and some rules to tweak the ruled rules. I think he´s got lost.

[nottophammer]

is Warrior band or on vacation

[SamNL]

is Warrior band or on vacation

Warrior is banned.

[falkor]

Rules and more rules and some rules to tweak the ruled rules. I think he´s got lost.

Warrior did the initial talking and since he got banned the stats have been doing the talking instead, and there's now a clearer path than ever towards victory over the game of roulette. Short-term I have to finish the rules for DS 2-4 as derived from the stats instead of my least accurate trial and error approach - and the DS1 stats had no ambiguity whatsoever - the rules are clear. And this is to maintain a 500 BR with a lifetime guarantee, but to let through a maximum number of wins before choosing to enter watch mode when continued play risks breaking the bank. We are looking at about 4 rules for each of the 4 DS closure check-points, but those 4 rules can simplified down to 3 or 2 if there is too much to remember (the last 2 DSs need least manual intervention). Besides that we just need to understand and memorise the progressions - maybe not perfectly but with a not-so-strict approach: we bet 1 unit then 2 then 3, and if 3 DSs continue to remain open (or we have just closed the 4th DS so are betting 3 DSs) then we know we must double up, so that's easy to adapt to. Once these basic rules and progressions are mastered we can start playing immediately - sooner if using a tracker and online. I reckon 2 weeks max from now.

Long term there is many tricks we can learn: when to start a new progression at a much higher value since we can learn that after certain DSs close following a long gap with a win, the next DS will be due much quicker; repeats also can benefit us and more research is needed there; finally, when entering watch mode - particularly after several DSs have closed too quickly - means that the opening cycle of the Law of the Third has fluctuated significantly, so we can guarantee it will take a sharp turn back towards the mean; so this might be the point where we change to betting DSs or numbers that are due to repeat. Over time we will not only beat the casino, but we can be a master over chaos itself.

[iggiv]

Winkel, you GUT is about single numbers? Makes much more sense. Double street is easy to bet, but easier to fail as well. If a table layout was good for winning with it, it would not be created.

[SamNL]

Falkor,

I am impressed by all your efforts so far.

You keep going despite all the critics.

For me personally I am still looking forward to this.
I will reserve my judgement for when I have played Roulette with it and seeing the results.

Keep up the good work Falkor!

[falkor]

Thanks for the support guys! I can tell warrior found something special even though CBW failed to tap into it... check out this set I just came across whilst in testing for DS 2 rules:

11 Wins!

Unfortunately, one of the last wins totalled 27, and that might be just over the limit (24 = 500 BR) for a poor fellow like me! But if you have more than 500 to spare then this set could have been played in full...

 

[falkor]

There was plenty of data just from the first test that removed DS 2 rules completely - so there was no need for 7 computers! 

Spin   Open   Page
      
17   4   C1
17   4   E1
15   3   A2
15   3   C1
15   3   C2
15   3   C2
15   3   D2
15   3   F1
15   3   H2
15   4   I1
14   3   C1
14   4   C2
14   3   E2
14   4   G1
14   3   H2
13   4   A2
13   4   E2
13   3   E2
13   3   G1
13   4   J1
12   4   A1
12   3   A2
12   4   C1
12   3   D1
12   3   E1
12   3   F1
12   3   I1
11   3   A1
11   3   B1
11   3   B1
11   3   B2
11   3   C1
11   2   D1
11   3   I1
11   3   I2
11   3   I2
10   4   A1
10   3   A1
10   3   A2
10   3   C1
10   3   C2
10   3   E1
10   2   F2
10   3   F2
10   3   H1
10   3   H1
10   3   H2
10   3   I1
10   3   I1
9   3   A2
9   3   D1
9   3   D2
9   3   D2
9   3   D2
9   3   E1
9   3   E1
9   3   E2
9   3   F1
9   3   F2
9   3   G1
9   3   H1
9   3   H1
9   3   I1
9   3   J1
9   3   J2
8   3   A1
8   2   B1
8   3   B1
8   3   B2
8   3   B2
8   3   B2
8   3   D2
8   3   F2
8   3   G1
8   3   G2
8   3   G2
8   2   H1
8   2   H2
8   3   H2
7   1   A2
7   1   B2
7   0   E2
7   3   G1
7   2   G2
7   3   H1
7   2   H2
7   1   H2
6   2   A1
6   2   D1
6   1   E1
6   1   H2
6   1   J1
6   2   J2
5   0   A1
5   0   E2
5   0   G1
5   1   I1
4   0   D1
4   0   H1

So DS 2 rules at their most advanced for entering watch mode (or moving onto the next set) should be:

Spin # < 18
Open > 2

Spin # < 12
Open > 1

Spin # < 8
Open > 0

Spin # = 4
Open = 0

I've also had to add one extra rule for DS 1 because there wasn't enough data to reveal it before:

Spin # = 2
Open = 0

So if you win on the first available betting opportunity (spin # 2) and pocket 5 units - don't think about continuing! You will win more than you will lose, but you risk breaking the bank during your lifetime (even though you still profit overall we don't want that to happen - NEVER!  )

And don't forget: testing was over 170,000 sets or 1 million spins!

[iggiv]

Falkor,

I wish you good luck even though i personally don't believe in this. But i wish you to achieve your goal. I hope your hard work won't be in vain.